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Re: BLIND OPEN RELAY HELP
Date sent: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:45:45 +0300
From: Matti Aarnio <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: Ali Idris <email@example.com>
Copies to: firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Re: BLIND OPEN RELAY HELP
> You are looking for complete anonymity ?
I'm afraid, this man asks the traditional question of all
Internet Scouts: "How to hide|forge completely my IP address"? :-
So, no sensible ansver is possible. Just "RTFM for TCP".
> By default the ZMailer is configured (and equiped) for
> "Internet Surveillance Project" needs -- it makes things
> easier for ISPs to hunt down the badies when there is
> some real data at hand.
> Some have asked to strip out all Received: headers, but
> I have not implemented that -- See RFC 2821 about loop
> detection. Replacing all former Received: headers might
> make sense when the message is going into controlled
> direction. That is, email coming into a site keeps its
> Received: headers intact, but one going out gets them
> However, doing security by OBSCURITY is no (real) security,
> so I really don't see point there in hiding things for mere
> Lets see what the Yahoo email tells:
> On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 12:21:21PM +0100, Ali Idris wrote:
> > Received: from web11406.mail.yahoo.com ([126.96.36.199]:3819
> > "HELO web11406.mail.yahoo.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE"
> > smtp-auth: <none> TLS-CIPHER: <none>) by nic.funet.fi with
> > SMTP id <S42117AbRFILVY>; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 14:21:24 +0300
> nic.funet.fi saw the message coming from Yahoo's system.
> > Message-ID:
> > <email@example.com> Received:
> > from [188.8.131.52] by web11406.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 09 Jun
> > 2001 12:21:21 BST
> The Yahoo system got it from IP address 184.108.40.206
> which reverses as: webcacheW02b.cache.pol.co.uk
> To find your real identity, I would need to make some detailed
> questions to pol.co.uk admins, and it would not be guaranteed
> that I would get any reply.
> > Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:21:21 +0100 (BST)
> > From: Ali Idris <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> > Subject: Re: BLIND OPEN RELAY HELP
> > To: email@example.com
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> > Return-Path: <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> > Hi,
> > I was wondering, do you know where I can buy a smtp
> > mailserver or anything similar that will sendout
> > messages to recipients without showing my computer ip
> > and isp details?
> What you apparently are asking for is anonymizer service.
> I did put word: "anonymizer" into www.google.net, and
> got a bunch of commercial services as well as some probably
> free service pointers.
> There used to be system called 'anon.penet.fi', but
> that is long gone.
> Newer things seem to be:
> - Remailer
> - Mixmaster
> See FAQ at: http://www.andrebacard.com/remail.html
> > I am aware of companies selling smtp IPs of
> > mailservers that send messages by blind relays so that
> > my recipients cannot see my computer ip and isp
> > details on the message headers.
> > But, I am not interested in buying smtp IPs,
> > I want to run my own blind relay smtp or mailserver.
> > Can you please kindly forward me where I can buy such
> > a mailserver?
> See that FAQ for pointers.
> > Is there away to send email without revealing the
> > senders' computer IP and senders' ISP details and the
> > sending mailserver' details on the messages' header
> > aswell?
> > And is there away to hide the computer IP and
> > mailserver details and ISP details of the form that
> > sends the messages?
> > Is there away to blind relay?
> > Do you know of any free scripts that will let me do
> > what I am intending to do?
> > Can you help in any way?
> > Thanks
> > Ali
> /Matti Aarnio <email@example.com>
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