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Re: BLIND OPEN RELAY HELP
You are looking for complete anonymity ?
By default the ZMailer is configured (and equiped) for
"Internet Surveillance Project" needs -- it makes things
easier for ISPs to hunt down the badies when there is
some real data at hand.
Some have asked to strip out all Received: headers, but
I have not implemented that -- See RFC 2821 about loop
detection. Replacing all former Received: headers might
make sense when the message is going into controlled
direction. That is, email coming into a site keeps its
Received: headers intact, but one going out gets them
However, doing security by OBSCURITY is no (real) security,
so I really don't see point there in hiding things for mere
Lets see what the Yahoo email tells:
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 12:21:21PM +0100, Ali Idris wrote:
> Received: from web11406.mail.yahoo.com ([184.108.40.206]:3819 "HELO
> web11406.mail.yahoo.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE" smtp-auth: <none>
> TLS-CIPHER: <none>) by nic.funet.fi with SMTP id <S42117AbRFILVY>;
> Sat, 9 Jun 2001 14:21:24 +0300
nic.funet.fi saw the message coming from Yahoo's system.
> Message-ID: <email@example.com>
> Received: from [220.127.116.11] by web11406.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 09 Jun 2001 12:21:21 BST
The Yahoo system got it from IP address 18.104.22.168
which reverses as: webcacheW02b.cache.pol.co.uk
To find your real identity, I would need to make some detailed
questions to pol.co.uk admins, and it would not be guaranteed
that I would get any reply.
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 12:21:21 +0100 (BST)
> From: Ali Idris <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Subject: Re: BLIND OPEN RELAY HELP
> To: email@example.com
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> Return-Path: <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> I was wondering, do you know where I can buy a smtp
> mailserver or anything similar that will sendout
> messages to recipients without showing my computer ip
> and isp details?
What you apparently are asking for is anonymizer service.
I did put word: "anonymizer" into www.google.net, and
got a bunch of commercial services as well as some probably
free service pointers.
There used to be system called 'anon.penet.fi', but
that is long gone.
Newer things seem to be:
See FAQ at: http://www.andrebacard.com/remail.html
> I am aware of companies selling smtp IPs of
> mailservers that send messages by blind relays so that
> my recipients cannot see my computer ip and isp
> details on the message headers.
> But, I am not interested in buying smtp IPs,
> I want to run my own blind relay smtp or mailserver.
> Can you please kindly forward me where I can buy such
> a mailserver?
See that FAQ for pointers.
> Is there away to send email without revealing the
> senders' computer IP and senders' ISP details and the
> sending mailserver' details on the messages' header
> And is there away to hide the computer IP and
> mailserver details and ISP details of the form that
> sends the messages?
> Is there away to blind relay?
> Do you know of any free scripts that will let me do
> what I am intending to do?
> Can you help in any way?
/Matti Aarnio <email@example.com>
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